I am a white American male, still interested in Sikhism, and as such, find myself still stuck before two paths: Punjabi Sikhism and 3HO. Punjabi: I am an oddity with a language barrier. 3HO: I must practice YB's brand of Kundalini yoga. Added to all this, I am not one to wear a turban or let my hair grow unmaintained. I guess I am another hopeless case. Oh well, back to learning the Jap Ji Sahib. :)

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Vaaheguroo Jee Kaa Khalsaa Vaaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh
(This Is God's Khaalsaa, All Victory Belongs To God!)

Hey Shaun, I hope you are well. I just wanted to say that in my own opinion, 3HO and Sikhee are two completely different things. Whilst 3HO is centralised mainly around Kundalini Yoga; which admittedly incorporates elements of Sikhi including the wearing of a pagh (turban) and a number of the panj kakkars (5 K's), namely the Kara, Sikhee to me, is completely distinct.

Whenever I try to explain what Sikhee is, I never give it justice as I find there are no words in any language to describe its beauty, let alone try and summarise everything. Therefore, I will ask a fellow user if they can explain it a billion times better that I ever could. All I will say is that Sikhee is an incredible spiritual path, that is so beautiful, out of this world and so modern! It teaches us that God is everything and that he is inside his entire creation. Sikhee gives us the lessons and the technology to see through the maya, to cut through the five vices of lust, ego, attachment, greed and anger and to become one with God. Sikhee is not only for panjabis, its for the whole of humanity :)

Take Care and God Bless Bro


Vaaheguroo Jee Kaa Khaalsaa Vaaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!


P.S - Good Luck with learning Japjee Sahib! :)

Sat Naam and Sat Sri Akaal dear Shaun Ji

Thank you for posting your question and you are definately not a hopeless case! 

From what you have written, it sounds like you are already well on the path and not at a cross-roads at all. For me,  learning Japji Sahib has been one of the most rewarding things I have done in my life. And I am still working on the practical application of Japji to my everyday life. Everyday Japji Sahib uplifts me, protects me and supports me.  


One of the many strengths of Sikhi is that it is a very diverse faith which is all encompassing. Think of it like a grand, lush and beautiful tree. It has many branches, it blossoms and it bears fruit.  It is tall and majestic.It offers shade and protection. It provides fuel and nurishment. It has very many branches including new shoots.  One of the many branches is 3HO and there are many branches of Panjabi-inspired Sikhi.  From everything I have witnessed and experienced, there is nothing in 3HO that is against Gurmat or the teachings of the Gurus or the Sikh Rehat Maryada (Sikh Code of Conduct).  There are many branches of SIkhi from Panjab, such as Nanaksar or from Kenya (Nishkam Sevak Jatha). They all bring a fresh perspective to Sikhi and reinvigourate the practice of the faith. The main thing is not to judge and to keep an open mind,

(excluding those who go against the teachings, of course!)


So go ahead and dive into the divine nectar of Japji Sahib. You do not need 3H0 or Panjabi-inspired Sikhi to discover and infuse Japji into every cell of your body, so that you can be inspired and uplifted by the divine words of Guru Nanak.


You have discovered the New to Sikhi Cyber-sangat, please feel free to post any questions on-line or off-line.

Best wishes and Chardi Kalla,


Thank you Gora Singh and Parminder Singh for your kind and thought provoking words. I will continue to explore the path. Sat Siri Akal.

Gurufateh, dear Shaun Ji

On a practical level, if you need any help with learning Japji Sahib, please message me.

Best wishes and Chardi Kalla,




Hello Shaun Sat sri akaal ,

m glad you have interest in sikhi , there is no Compulsion for Amrit shak , you can still count yourself as Sikh and follow Guru Granth Sahib as your Guru .

you can also check Islam , Sufism , Bahai , Buddhism ?

Parminder.  Thank you for your kind offer on learning Japji Sahib.  I have found some resources and will work it on my own for now, but I may reach out to you in future. 

It Singh.  Thank you for your suggestion, it really makes sense to me.  Do you know of an excellent English version source of the SGGS?

Squid Singh.  Yes I am exploring other paths.  I am currently a mish-mosh of Buddhism, Christianity and Sikhism.  I know about the adage that you can only cross the river in one boat, but no one said you couldn't stack all three and float across. ;-)  I am hopeful that once the tide goes out, that the path will become apparent to me.

God bless all.


Thank you Mandip Kaur Sandher!!!  This is a wonderful site and is just what I was looking for!!!  Helpful to me, and possibly others following this discussion.  God bless you.


Sat nam Shaun Ji!


Here's a link to a translation of the Guru that I'm currently using! :) You can search it in multiple ways.




I myself started off as a yoga student-sikh, but now I'm mostly meditating on Gurbani and reading the daily prayers, it's a technology in its own right and while yoga really helps balance the body and calm the mind for meditation, reciting the Guru will yield some amazing experiences. I believe in experience. :D


All the best!

Saranpreet Kaur

Thank you Saranpreet.  This is perfect!  All the best.

There is nothing called Punjabi Sikhism or 3HO Sikhism. There is only one Sikhism that is of Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Khalsas where keeping all the 5K's and believing in Guru Granth Sahib Ji is mandatory and of prime importance with no if's and but's.


Your words are a breath of fresh air to me. Clearly the Guru's words are what is most important. Understanding and living through those words would be the true yogic way of living.  I get it: get directly connected. We are One and manifestations of the One.  Drop the robes and follow the light.

I listen to the Japji Sahib most every morning on my ipod in order to start my day on a spiritual footing.  In punjabi, it is somewhat ritualistic at this point, but I review the english translation and so I know the general meanings behind that beautiful poetry. I sometimes do kundalini, but more of a way to connect to Sikhism, and also gain some health benefit as a bonus. However, I believe that reading gurbani, learning and understanding the meanings through english translation, self-awareness and meditating, stand a much better chance of allowing this bud to blossom. 

God bless,


Thank you. Look forward to checking out this weekend!

Bless you.



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