As somewhat of an interested non-committal, I have been exploring the Sikh religion for a couple of years now, 3HO and traditional and their controversial differences (yoga, astrology, guru worship, etc.), so still trying to sort all of that out. Meanwhile, with no local western Sikh gurdwaras close by (and not totally sold on the 3HO total package), I have attended traditional indian gurdwara twice (but felt out of place as the only non-indian there, who also did not understand Punjabi, limiting my experience). Not giving up, I have started reading on-line (English translation) versions of the SGGS and SRM, and have practiced kundalini yoga for good measure. Sikhism seems to resonate with me, but I do stumble on inconsistencies within and between each aforementioned form of Sikhism (as mentioned above, but also: no rituals, yet the 5Ks, amrit, etc.; defenders of those suffering from injustice, but so much injustice remains seemingly unchallenged and even uprotested.)  Hoping to gain a deeper understanding and insight into the true path of Sikhism and it's practices, I assume that reading and studying the SGGS would be the best first step (does anyone have a recommendation of an excellent hard-copy English translation version of the SGGS?)  I am open to any other thoughts and suggestions. Namaste.   

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Vaaheguroo Jee Kaa Khaalsaa Vaaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh.

 

Dear Original Poster, I hope you are well.

I'd like to wish you a warm welcome to the forum! Please feel free to inbox me or add me on skype and MSN messenger and i'll try my best to help you to answer your questions or failing that, pinpoint you in the right direction.  May I ask, are you from the US, UK or elsewhere?

Take Care and God Bless.

 

GoraSingh.

Thanks for your reply.  I am in the US.  I will inbox you...

GoraSinghUK said:

Vaaheguroo Jee Kaa Khaalsaa Vaaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh.

 

Dear Original Poster, I hope you are well.

I'd like to wish you a warm welcome to the forum! Please feel free to inbox me or add me on skype and MSN messenger and i'll try my best to help you to answer your questions or failing that, pinpoint you in the right direction.  May I ask, are you from the US, UK or elsewhere?

Take Care and God Bless.

 

GoraSingh.

Shaun Ji,

                WaheGuru Ji Ka Khalsa,

                WaheGuru Ji Ki Fateh.

 

I can understand your dilemma but the answer to your issues related to Sikhi lies within your question asked above.  You say that you have started reading online versions of the SGGS and the SRM.  This is the best option for any beginner who's learning to be a Sikh.  Be sure that the SRM you read is the one authorized by the SGPC because there are many versions of SRM in circulation but the standard version considered is that of the SGPC.  

 

You need not worry at all even if you are not feeling comfortable in the Indian dominated Gurdwaras.  The world has changed today, with the help of technology one can get help sitting at home.  Keep visiting forums like this and also the best known Sikh site available today, www.sikhnet.com  You can also get in touch with me at my mail id for any Sikhi related queries.

 

You know the biggest issue facing the Sikh Panth especially in the western countries is that we don't have proper systematic planning, trainers and preachers of Sikhism.  People living in the western world are spiritually hungry and they need a faith which is practically and logically correct to follow in this fast paced world and Sikhism has got answers and can make huge inroads inside the western world but unfortunately the Punjabi Indian Sikhs especially their religious leaders either have failed to understand or they willingly don't want to see and understand.  So, here comes forums like this who's at the rescue of those like you.  

 

I hope you make lots of friends in this forum who can guide you to your spiritual quest leading you to the perfect path of Sikhi.

 

My advise to you neither traditional nor 3HO forms of Sikhi are bad.  Both are right, yes controversies will always be there but never forget they all are the Singhs and Singhnis of Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

 

Sat Sri Akal.

My suggestion is to go to Punjab and explore. You should visit Golden Temple, historical Sikh places, go to museums, visit local gurudwaras, see how langar is cooked (I mean unity of people), do some seva.... meet local people

 

Even if he is not able to visit Punjab, what my advise to him would be since he is based in the United States he must visit the following address, the Heaven on Earth and let him see for himself the western Sikhs leading a pure Khalsa lifestyle.

 

Hacienda de Guru Ram Das Ashram
1A Ram Das Guru Place
Espanola, NM 87532
505-753-6341

 


Danka aka Desilegend said:

My suggestion is to go to Punjab and explore. You should visit Golden Temple, historical Sikh places, go to museums, visit local gurudwaras, see how langar is cooked (I mean unity of people), do some seva.... meet local people

 

Amarjit: Yes, I know about the Guru Ram Das Ashram.  I have watched live video streams of Sunday service there a few times. Thank you for your suggestion. 

Danka, It: Yes, I thought about checking out the Punjab and visiting the Golden Temple.  The problem with both suggestions is that right now I am bound to a new job that I just started last week, so I will not have the opportunity to visit either in the near future. Lucky to have a job these days, but I have been tempted to chuck it all at times  :-). BTW, I have also viewed videos of the service at the Golden Temple. It, I will keep you in mind if the opportunity to go back there presents itself to me.    

While on the subject of the Punjab, I am curious how safe it is for gora Americans there these days in that particular area?

 

You should not be worrieed at all!

Some people will be excited, some people would not even notice you. There are so many tourists in Punjab! You have to take precautions but it's safe. Let me know if you are going, I might help you to organise your trip and accomodation.

Sikh salutation is either WaheGuru Ji Ka Khalsa, WaheGuru Ji Ki Fateh or simply Sat-Sri-Akal not Namaste.

WKWF,

              Can anyone let me know the difference between 3HO Sikhs and non-3HO Sikhs.  I have heard a lot of people talking about 3HO Sikhs, some say white Sikhs, some say black Sikhs, some say Punjabi Sikhs.  But i am not able to understand as how do we differ from each other.  Does the Sikh principles and philosophy differs for each one of us.  Any answers from anyone out here?

WKWF. 

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