This is an unpleasant topic and perhaps a bad way to introduce myself.  I believe in remaining in chardi kala, but I do not believe in being unaware of what's out there.

This site is particularly vicious, totally and racist and definitely antiPanthic.  They have attacked me by name a couple times.  I have a policy of ignoring such slander, so I have not replied or acknowledged them online (except here).  It is called Out Of Our Heritage

Sorry for this, but ignorance is not bliss;  it is dangerous!

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Mai, I think that ignoring them is the best tactic. As one book says "don't argue with a fool". The reason for this is that others watching the interaction may not know who the fool is; the other reason being is if that their argument is beneath contempt, those of us on a higher plane of thought and humanity are only brought down to the other's level.

You can take legal action against the webmaster of that site, as their action is defamatory.
OmDan ji,

I have a personal policy of ignoring such spurious attacks. They do me no harm. Thanks (?) to my blog, The Road To Khalistan, and my activities in several Sikh online Sikh groups, I have somehow become something of a public person on the Net and am quite thick-skinned. I have better things to do with my time than answering these fools. I do think it is necessary, however, to alert others that this filthy drivel is out there.

Thank you for your kind words.

OmDan said:
Mai, I think that ignoring them is the best tactic. As one book says "don't argue with a fool". The reason for this is that others watching the interaction may not know who the fool is; the other reason being is if that their argument is beneath contempt, those of us on a higher plane of thought and humanity are only brought down to the other's level.

You can take legal action against the webmaster of that site, as their action is defamatory.
Don't pay attention to people like this. Don't waste your time on them. These are people who will never be changed.

I had few unpleasant experiences and things were written. I do not care. I'm truthful to myself and others.

Mai Harinder Kaur said:
OmDan ji,

I have a personal policy of ignoring such spurious attacks. They do me no harm. Thanks (?) to my blog, The Road To Khalistan, and my activities in several Sikh online Sikh groups, I have somehow become something of a public person on the Net and am quite thick-skinned. I have better things to do with my time than answering these fools. I do think it is necessary, however, to alert others that this filthy drivel is out there.

Thank you for your kind words.

OmDan said:
Mai, I think that ignoring them is the best tactic. As one book says "don't argue with a fool". The reason for this is that others watching the interaction may not know who the fool is; the other reason being is if that their argument is beneath contempt, those of us on a higher plane of thought and humanity are only brought down to the other's level.

You can take legal action against the webmaster of that site, as their action is defamatory.
I understand how you guys feel. I live in Ottawa and i have no Sikh friends and i have 99% not seen a Sikh boy of my age anywhere in Ottawa, when i go around. I am the only Sikh in my whole school. Even though those people are saying rascist or derogatory comments, we need not use any foul language or any hatred towards those people, as no matter what, they are part of the One god. They are entitled to their own opinions as much as we are, whether they had any reasoning behind their thinking or not. People say lots of things like those on internet but its hard for people to say that in someone's face, as the consequences are and will be far more severe. Therefore "trolls" like these are a natural occurence, nothing to be worried about, insignificant.
Very happy to hear so wise words from your mouth. You have great upbringing and respect to your parents.
It should be so hard to hear all these racist comments but you will be the strongest in between all of them. By spirit and heart!

Respect to you JI!

Gagandeep Singh said:
I understand how you guys feel. I live in Ottawa and i have no Sikh friends and i have 99% not seen a Sikh boy of my age anywhere in Ottawa, when i go around. I am the only Sikh in my whole school. Even though those people are saying rascist or derogatory comments, we need not use any foul language or any hatred towards those people, as no matter what, they are part of the One god. They are entitled to their own opinions as much as we are, whether they had any reasoning behind their thinking or not. People say lots of things like those on internet but its hard for people to say that in someone's face, as the consequences are and will be far more severe. Therefore "trolls" like these are a natural occurence, nothing to be worried about, insignificant.
I read some of this just now and stopped reading it it makes you take a step back and think there are some people out there with some real issues!
I feel for you on this one. There is so much hate and negativity in this world and don't think giving this blogger any attention will help. I used to get so much hate email as a result of my work at SikhNet and over the past 14 years have gotten much better at dealing with it.

If this were on a major website with huge circulation it might justify some response, but that is not the case. I would rather just let this person sit in his/her own negativity and prayer that they are able to move beyond it and see the light in all.
I was a little reluctant to post about this site because I didn't really want to increase her readership, but I thought it enough of an issue to bring it up.

I agree that when we become public people we need to develop a thick hide. I also get quite a bit of nasty mail regarding my blog, The Road To Khalistan. I see my role as part educator, part curmudgeon, part agitator, part peacemaker (those last two are not mutually exclusive). As such, I expect a certain amount of abuse and, in fact, would wonder if I were doing my job, if it were to stop.

Being attacked for taking controversial stands on whatever is meant to evoke a response, often unfriendly. That's cool. I am also well aware that there are those uncomfortable in the realm of ideas who will result in personal attacks. This is also to be expected.

I started this thread as a purely informational item. I have ignored this person heretofore and shall continue to do the same. She must be in great pain to spew forth such hatred; indeed, such prejudice is a very heavy burden to bear. She needs our prayers and love, I think. I also think it is necessary to be aware that these attitudes are out there, so we are prepared to handle them

Remain in chardi kala, my sisters and brothers!

Gurumustuk Singh said:
I feel for you on this one. There is so much hate and negativity in this world and don't think giving this blogger any attention will help. I used to get so much hate email as a result of my work at SikhNet and over the past 14 years have gotten much better at dealing with it.

If this were on a major website with huge circulation it might justify some response, but that is not the case. I would rather just let this person sit in his/her own negativity and prayer that they are able to move beyond it and see the light in all.
I don;t know why, but the Internet brings out the Truth of our Subconscious feelings:

http://sikhsangat.org/2010/05/online-comments-call-for-the-killings...

It is important to report these incidents to groups like Sikh Coalition, WSO, and others, so that they can take legal action against them. IF people were educated, then mass media messaging would have less effect on the play of peoples subconscious - negatively conditioned behaviour.
You are absolutely correct!! These were reported to the proper Canadian authorities yesterday when this same article was posted in the Sikh Activist Network. We can only hope some constructive action will be taken. I believe that such threats are criminal either under Canadian anti hate speech laws or anti terrorism laws. They might be perfectly legal in the USA, however; I'm not sure.

Brave Mind said:
I don;t know why, but the Internet brings out the Truth of our Subconscious feelings:

http://sikhsangat.org/2010/05/online-comments-call-for-the-killings...

It is important to report these incidents to groups like Sikh Coalition, WSO, and others, so that they can take legal action against them. IF people were educated, then mass media messaging would have less effect on the play of peoples subconscious - negatively conditioned behaviour.
Right now, my heart is filling with compassion for you, for the Sikh community, for humanity and for my beloved, Waheguru. Ohhhh, we have such a long way to go in bringing bani, bana, sewa and simran into western culture. These few, but violently hateful egos, are evidence of why we all need to unite in service and fulfill our individual and kalsa hukams.

Victory belongs to Waheguru. The pure belong to Waheguru. Winning is in the bag if you're playing for the right team. It's just a matter of time. Be patient . . . even with the ones who are feeling threatened that they are losing their 'heritage'. Really . . . that's all this bravado is about. They're making a lot of clattering noise, throwing stones and hoping we will be scared away.

If these renegades are claiming to be Sikh, perhaps the best action is to notify sikhsangat.org that they have some posers to deal with. This will allow them to track any trends in abusiveness and misrepresentation of Sikhi and Sikhs.

SSA,
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Interesting article that actually gives me a little hope:

Does Sikhism encourage violence? With the dust starting to settle on the Vaisakhi parade controversy, I wonder how accurately our community can answer this question. Just under a year ago, May 4, 2009, MacLean's magazine published an article titled, "What Canadians think of Sikhs, Jews, Christians, Muslims... A disturbing new poll shows the limits of our tolerance."

The article published data from a national poll that surveyed Canadians' beliefs about a number of mainstream religions. The poll found that, when it comes to religion, "many Canadians harbor deeply troubling biases."

Of particular interest were the questions that probed Canadians' views on Sikhism. When asked if they thought the mainstream beliefs of Sikhism encouraged violence, a full 26 per cent of respondents answered "yes."

Why might so many Canadians hold such inaccurate views of Sikhism? The article speculates that media coverage of complex social, economic, or political issues may oversimplify matters, leading to erroneous "reductive reasoning" in which readers tend to misattribute religion as the cause.

In short, religion is an easier hook on which to hang our prejudices. The poll also asked respondents if they held a "generally favourable opinion" about Sikhism, to which only 30 per cent answered "yes," one of the lowest favourability ratings in the poll.

Only one in three Canadians can find in their hearts to hold a favourable view of Sikhism. This next piece is really interesting. The poll then probed whether or not having a Sikh friend was a related factor in peoples' opinions about Sikhism. Of respondents who did not have a Sikh friend, only 23 per cent had a "generally favourable view." Of respondents who did have a Sikh friend, 63 per cent had a "generally favourable view."

We, as a society, have a predisposition towards misunderstanding and intolerance when it comes to religious traditions that differ from our own. I am hopeful that our politicians and media can choose words and images that minimize the risk of fueling this misunderstanding and intolerance.

I am also hopeful that all citizens of Surrey will take advantage of opportunities to get to know their neighbours and to challenge some of the misconceptions and assumptions they may have about religious traditions other than their own. The Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara, 7050 120th St., is hosting a Multifaith Social at 4-6 p.m. on May 16. The event is an opportunity to get to know people from different faith traditions in your community.

Contact the author David Dalley at davidanderin@dalley.ca or (604) 502-8661 for more information.

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